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storm seriously. if it gets closer than we think, it is going to be trouble. >> don't want it to be tracking westerly right now. that's what seems to be happening. great job today, rob. thanks so much. one quick note. we also did get word hatteras island visitors only have been put under a mandatory evacuation order. this comes from the dare county control group meet thing morning. everybody in that area will be checking. their local listings and check something with local officials to make sure. >> take this seriously. it is a real storm that's coming in. don't worry about the category 3. 125 miles an hour. thanks very much. what a great day it has been. busy news day. great to be with you. >> see you back here again tomorrow. >> last time i was here i thought t.j. holmes comes with the package. he was here last time. i come up to new york and he's not there. you let me down, brother. >> ships passing in the night. >> they are trying to figure us out. they should keep news two separate places, i do believe. good to see you guys this morning. you will have a good one. we are going to pick up on what they were talking about there.
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this hurricane, massive hurricane. hurricane earl. it is making its way. there it is. it is big, powerful and going to be a menace. we don't know how big of a menace just yet. the east coast, literally from the carolinas to maine. you just heard from kiran, some evacuations are getting under way. more could be coming. we are your hurricane headquarters. we will be live for you along the coast. have the very latest for you with our jacqui jeras who is here as well. it is never too early to start saving for college. it is getting more and more esses expense ive. look at these little guys. they are putting money into the bank for their college tuition they are going to use in about 13 years or so. we will explain that. again, we are your hurricane headquarters. the talk about this hurricane, hurricane earl right mao. it is a category 3. it went from category 4 to
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category 3. do not let that fool you. that means absolutely nothing if you will because it is still churning up 125-mile-per-hour winds. it is threatening the east coast. you see the track. it is on right now. it could gain strength. again, category 3, 4, doesn't make a difference now. this is a powerful, powerful monster. even though it is on its way, it is already having some effects, dangerous rip currents out there for swimmers, also expected to be north carolina's near north carolina outer banks by sometime. ocracoke island, we heard them talking about a moment ago. it is being evacuated and talking about tourists being evacuateded right mao. you can only get to this particular island by ferry. they are trying to make sure all the tourists get out there. there are people that live there as well p.m. 800 people that live there year round. some of them hunkering down and trying to ride this thing out no matter what. but they are being warned they need to stock up on food, water and other supplies. also, virginia coast, also on
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hurricane watch now, the navy as well getting ready. they are moving a destroyer out to calmer waters right outer loop p trying to get out of earl's way. rob marciano is there for news virginia beach for us now. rob, tell us the best you can tell us about when it might get to where you are and other people are along the coast and are we talking about a direct hit just yet? >> well, that's a possibility. it has been possibility the whole time, t.j. what we have been hoping for really hasn't happened. we have been hoping for more easterly progression of the forecast track. it keeps getting shifted to the west ask that means that north carolina, virginia, and the delmarva, and the northeast haven't been taken out of that forecasting margin of error, cone of uncertainty. it is a possibility to get a direct hit. even if that major hurricane gets within 50 miles of the coastline, or 100 miles of the coastline, that's going to put some hurt on virginia and chesapeake bay area and certainly the outer banks which
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you mentioned has some evacuations under way. hurricane watches are posted and warnings likely to be posted later on today. regardless of how close this storm gets, the water out there, although it is beautiful and calm now, dangerous rip currents. hurricane danielle was hundreds of miles away. much, much smaller. and hundreds of water rescues had to be -- happened over the weekend. from that storm. can you imagine as labor day weekend approach over the next several days, as this storm comes up and churns up the water, how many lives are going to be in danger of all those people in the water as we wrap up summer? that's a huge concern. the other thing that's huge is that this area, at least in the delmarva and chesapeake bay area, they really haven't seen a big storm in here since hurricane isabelle. there haven't been many people i talked to that are worried. and that's a little bit troublesome for sure. we will be tracking it live over the next couple of day. >> on that point if you can wrap up for me, people don't
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remember. it is not on their minds how bad these things can be. is that affecting their behavior and maybe some people might not heed the warnings to get out of there. it has been so long. >> hurricane amnesia or storm amnesia, it is a real thing. and yeah, that's -- that's going to be a concern for local authorities if the word does come down. they are going to have to start to evacuate people. that's already happened down across north carolina. if this thing keeps on its track, maybe a little farther to the west, that means places here in virginia beach where it is jammed with people. i mean, last week of summer, this place is loaded up. you have a lot of people that aren't very hurricane savvy either. we may not leave just because they are on vacation. i have never seen a hurricane. it is not a big deal. it will be tenuous for sure over the next 48 hours. >> we appreciate you, as always. we will be talking to rob throughout the day. he will be doing his reporting there on hurricane earl. we appreciate it. thanks so much. also this morning, something
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we are keeping a very close eye on, the official ceremony. the changing of the guard in iraq. we will have this live picture and i will show it to you. that man there, lieutenant lloyd austin. you see in the crowd there. he is standing at the podium. official ceremony marking the changing of the guard. marking a changing of the command in iraq. this ceremony happening there. that is lloyd austin. now the commander of operation new dawn which officially begins on this day, september 1st, this ceremony showing us the official handover of that military command from the united states to the iraqis. now we heard from during this ceremony also the robert gates, defense secretary, he's there as well as the vice president. joe biden. listen to some of the words he shared with the crowd a short time ago. >> we kept a promise, a promise made to the american people, and to the people of iraq by drawing down our forces to roughly 50,000.
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we are is on track to move all of our troops by the end of next year according to the agreement signed by president bush made with the iraqi government. >> it seems like you have been seeing a lot of milestones the past couple of weeks. a couple of weeks ago we saw the milestone of the last u.s. combat brigade rolling out of iraq. then we saw another milestone which was yesterday in the official day when iraq took over and you saw the president speak last night on that milestone and then today, another milestone, you are seeing it happen officially. that ceremony which officially hands over command to the iraqis. iraq prime minister put all local governments and security forces as well on high alert. meektss terrorists to stage symbolic attacks. our guest now is an expert on iraq, political and military perspective. marissa cochran sullivan is the deputy director of the institute for the study of war. she's also former command historian for the multinational force in iraq. ma'am, thank you so much for being here.
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you study war. in studying this one, i don't know want to take anything away from the symbolism of what we have been seeing over the past 24 hours and past couple of weeks. but is what we are seeing, is it more symbolic than it is substantive change in iraq now? >> good morning. thanks so much for having me. there's several important changes that are taking place yesterday and today. the first is the change of mission of u.s. forces in iraq and that's something that president obama talked about last night in his speech and the vice president today. the end of combat mission in iraq and change to one of stability, advising and assisting the iraqis. the second important change that you have seen is the change of command of the u.s. military headquarters in iraq. general odeirno, less well known than general petraeus, but equally significant contribution in iraq, has been there on the ground for over 4 1/2 -- almost 4 1/2 years, made a tremendous sacrifice. he's changing command.
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and relinquishing command to general austin who likewise served in iraq under general odierno. the u.s. lead will go from military lead to civilian lead. so now the u.s. is still engaged in iraq, still very important work to be done. you about the lead on that work is the state department, u.s. civilians on the ground, military is now supporting that role. >> again, we talked -- you explained there so much about, yes, so much of the symbolism. that's important to note. yes, there is a change technically in the mission. we still have combat brigades there ready to go at a moment's notice. all this symbolism we have been seeing in the ceremony we are watching, explain or describe how two different publics are taking this. the u.s. public might be doing it one day. happy to see it winding down. what about the iraqis, how are they viewing this moment of essentially the americans getting technically out of the fight? >> sure. well, in iraq this has been a
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transition that's been under way for months now. and the iraqis, though, today is important in its symbolism, the iraqis had the lead in security since the security agreement went into effect in early 2009. this has been in transition that's been planned for months and years and that's been in the works. and so in terms of what you have seen on the ground, you are not going to see a dramatic change between what the iraqis doing and u.s. forces are doing. the iraqis have been in the leading and u.s. forces have been providing important advice and assistance. but it is an important day for the united states and in terms of what it signifies for the mission in iraq. >> how do you think this will affect the war in afghanistan now? not just a matter of so many troops are leaving iraq so now we have more resources to go towards afghanistan but in how this war russian wound down and how it has been handled, how will that affect us moving forward in afghanistan? >> i think there's certainly going to be increased attention
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on afghanistan and the decision to add more resources has, again, come -- came earlier this year, late last year, when the president made his announcement. so you started to see that shift in resources and as -- u.s. forces have come out of iraq. you are seeing more forces go into afghanistan. there has been a shift in the wait in the efforts. there's still important work to be done in iraq. i you this we can't lose sight of the opportunity we have in iraq, partner we have gained in the iraqi state and the iraqi security forces. iraq transformed from a pariah state to a very important u.s. partner. i think that there's certainly -- you know, tremendous progress. there's also a lot of opportunity and a lot of challenges ahead. >> well, it is important to note that this symbolic day and the president did so last night as well. we are see what happens moving forward. ma'am, we appreciate your time
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here. enjoy the rest of your day. >> thanks so much. >> with the end of the u.s. combat mission, president obama says that the iraqis are in position to shape their own future. >> belief we share with the iraqi people. a belief that out of the ashes of the war, a new beginning could be born in this cradle of civilization. through this remarkable chapter and the history of the united states and iraq, we have met our responsibilities. now it is time to turn the page. >> the president's oval office speech was build as major address talking about the symbolism of what's happening in iraq now. he talked about iraq and heel veered away from iraq. we will bring you our white house correspondent, suzanne malveaux. good morning to you. i printed out that speech. it was about five pages. the first two of the speech were dedicated to iraq. he took a turn to other things, first of all, afghanistan. >> you know, one of the
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interesting things, i went to ft. bliss, texas with the president yesterday where he met with the troops. it is very clear that he cares a great deal with b the service men and women. let's face it. this is a war-weary country. people don't want to think about going to war again and don't want to think about escalation in afghanistan. so what was notable about what the president said last night, one of the things is that he did give a nod to president bush's troop surge and in iraq by acknowledging it. by saying that this is the one thing that is going to be important and necessary in afghanistan to end this war quickly. i want to you take a listen to how he put this. >> these forces will be in place for a limited time to provide space for the afghans to build their capacity and secure their own future. but as was the case in iraq, we can't do for afghans what they must ultimately do for themselves. >> reporter: the president is
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already calling for the afghans essentially to do for themselves. what did show talk about? he talked about a july date. at least a target date, if you will, to start reassessing u.s. troops inside of afghanistan. it is very clear here while to one hand pitching forward saying we will escalate and it will be really important. this war in afghanistan, at the same time, he is trying to reassure folks that this is not going to be an open-ended war. and just bear with me, stick with me here. we will get through this other war and now that iraq ended. >> no matter how much war is on the minds of americans, the president and his staff know full well the thing people care most about right now is if economy. he was able to weave that into the speech as well. let's take a listen and i will ask you about it on the other side. good our most urgent it is a section to restore the economy and put the millions of americans who have lost their jobs back to work. to strengthen our middle class who must give all of our children the education they deserve. and all our workers the skills
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they need to compete in the global economy. >> suzanne, just listening to that, if you only listen to that bit you wouldn't have realized it was an actual speech on iraq. what do they feel yes, it is important on people's minds but still why in this moment did they still think it was important to get in something about the economy? >> reporter: i thought it was an awkward transition when you listen to how he did this. he did make that transition. it is really important because obviously midterm elections around the corner but what are people thinking about, what are they focusing on? latest polls show us that the number one issue is the economy. jobs is second. deficit is third. and terrorism and the war is way down on the bottom. so people are not necessarily thinking about iraq and afghanistan. he had to make that turn. he had to turn the corner there. one of the things he's trying to convince folks is that if we spend less money in iraq, we can use that money to really invest here at home. i think that's the kind of message a lot of people are
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hoping for and wanted to hear. tried to do a two-for. i'm not sure if it worked. he's trying at least the very least to reassure americans that he does get it and knows what they care about. >> like you said, there are a lot of people talking about that, a different and even an odd transition to kind of make last night in the speech about iraq and about afghanistan and about war. way from the speech now, if you didn't have enough on the plate the president trying to do what all of his predecessors weren't able to do. trying to negotiate, trying to help with the mideast peace initiative. got a big couple of days coming up. >> absolutely. you know, all of the best of luck to him on this one. i covered president bush. also covered president clinton and watched the two leaders attempt and fail essentially to try to get the final talks and the middle east peace process going. what the president is going to do today, going to be meeting with four critical leaders. obviously the prime minister of israel, binyamin netanyahu, abbas, king jordan, and king
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abda abdullah of jordan. they will be placing a premium on whether or not they can get forward on final status talks. really serious issues between palestinians and israelis within a year or so. we are going to see if they are really serious about this. this is the beginning of a rather long process. >> suzanne malveaux at the white house for us. always appreciate you. thank you so much. coming up, you are going to meet the high school graduating class of 2023. >> how much money is this? >> $10. >> do you think that if you go to college, do you think it costs more than $10? probably. you need a lot of these to go to college. >> yes. it costs more than ten bucks. that's san francisco's mayor. g gavin newsom. they are bankation way money for higher educating.
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♪ fix our school. that's a big task. those are three words we will drive what you see on cnn this week. because america's children return to school. cnn has a mission. right here. we sent reporting teams across the country to document the education crisis in america. most importantly, shine a light on success stories that could empower us to offer our children so much more than they are getting right now. today a look at higher education. what it takes not just to get into college but to actually pay for it. the federal government says 70% of high school graduates head off to college, headed off last year. that's a record high. but higher education comes with a pretty hefty price tag. those costs are going up as you can imagine. let's go back to 1977. tuition and fees, food, pay rent, all for about $4,000 at a
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privilege at college or university. it was about half of that if you win to a public university. look at how much that budget ballooned in just over 30 years. you have to shell out about $40,000 a year at a private university. we wondered how much college is going to cost in 13 years when today's kindergartners enroll. college board predicting that by 2023, private schools will cost more than $73,000 a year. nobody can afford that essentially. that's a big financial burden for the parents. possibly for the students. whoever will be paying for it. kinder dparter ins in the public school sis temperature starting to save for college right n.o.w. the 5-year-olds can thank the taxpayers for the very many. >> reporter: what would college be? is it school? how much money is this?
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>> ten. >> $10. >> and do you think that if you go to college, do you think it costs more than $10? probably. you need a lot of these to go to college. >> reporter: the mayor has come to sarah elementary school because start thing year, every kinder smarter in here will get a college savings account courtesy of city taxpayers. >> we never heard of anything like this. >> to our knowledge, it hasn't been done in the united states. what a nice backdrop. midst of everybody talking about budget cuts and constraints. >> reporter: the program which will take a couple of years to fully implement is fairly modest. children will get $50 to start. $100 for lower income children. one of the goals is to get families to save. as an add incentive a private foundation will contribute $100 for every child whose family saves $100 and at least for the first few years. we know that $50, $100 even after 12 years of interest and compounding is still not going to be enough money. we know that what needs to happen is the families need to
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step in. families, relatives rs friends. they need to help and august many those things so they grow year after year. that's what gives a child enough money to go to college. one of the main ideas behind this program is just to get children thinking about college at a very young age. city officials like to point to a study from the uchb washington in sane ain't that found that children who just had some money set aside for college were seven times more likely to go. this latino father says he wants to send his two children to college but like many parents, hasn't saved for it and is intimidated by the costs. >> you are unemployed. not working for five months, it is hard to think about saving ask one-half of the community in san francisco doesn't have access to a checking account or savings account. but their child has that? and now it is being matched by the private sector. and stanford university, gates foundation will do an independent analysis to see if this works and other members of the community are going to say you know what, i would love to
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contribute. you watch. this thing will take off. all of a sudden we will deal with that one limited belief. that's i can't afford college. >> reporter: the program would have to survive budget negotiations each year but at a cost of $200,000 this year out of the $6 billion budget it seems minuscule. especially if it works. that, of course, we won't know for many years until these children reach college age. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. >> all of this week we are looking at the problems facing our schools. today you want to know should school be year round? students, don't bother answering. we will debate it with your parents the next hour. we want to hear your comments. our digital producer, there he is, he is sifting through all of your e-mails and will be reading your thoughts in our next hour. do you think we should switch to year-round schools? stay with us.
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in ask a skashgs senator lisa murkowski conceded the republican primary race to tea party favorite joe miller. >> reporter: here in anchorage, alaska, there has been a seismic schiff in the political
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landscape. republican senator lisa murkowski has conceded the senate gop primary to her challenger, joe miller. >> for the good of the state of alaska, which this is what this is about, for the good of the state of alaska. i am now conceding the race for the republican nomination. i shared that information with mr. miller just a few moments ago. >> reporter: joe miller is the tea party express candidate who back in june when the tea party express endorsed him was a virtual unknown in the state. many people had not heard of him. the tea party express took a candidate who had very low name i.d. and poured in monday why you, poured in time and poured in resources, and helped push him towards the finish line. this will also be seen as a political victory for none other than sarah palin. sarah palin endorsed joe miller when he had very lgsz little name i.d. it will see as sarah palin flexing her muscle yet again.
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friday if we get 50, 60-mile an hour winds. water will be up at chest high at high tide. six, seven-foot waves in here. >> even though it is on the way, some rip currents, waves, already causing a danger. jacqui jeras, you know, first of all, you had to set me straight earlier. no, this is very important. yes, i went from a category 4 to category 3. anyone out there just hearing that might go okay, things are getting better, it is getting weaker. slow down, that's not the case. >> you don't want to say downgrade because it is a major storm. 3, 4, 5, talking about a major danger. if this thing deviates from the track at all, this is a huge problem for the outer banks. to see a major hurricane making landfall there, it is a good thing they are starting to put those evacuations into effect. >> even if it doesn't make landfall lit do damage quite possibly because it will pass by pretty closely no matter what. >> yeah. i think it will be within less than 100 miles. the tropical storm force wind field on this, look at how big
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this storm is. this is a big storm. winds extend 200 miles from the center of the storm. that tells you we are likely going to see tropical storm force winds. 50% chance you are going to see hurricane force wind gusts and outer banks. this will start really kicking in, we think those waves are going to start to kick in a little bit today. throughout the day tomorrow. and then thursday night and into friday as s when the worst of the conditions can be expected. all right. here is the latest on earl. category 3 storm. that makes it a midge or hurricane. maximum winds, 125 miles per hour. gusts higher than that. we have seen structural changes in the last couple of hours. i want to show you this satellite picture because it is so cool. this is showing -- if you look right in the little hole there in the eye of the hurricane, do you see that second little spin? looks to me like we have a second little vortex in here. that happens sometimes with systems. the other thing i want to point out here, take a look at what is going on right here. we have dry air which has been in the system.
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we have a little bit of wind shear and that's why we have gone down to a 3 instead of a 4. we could see some additional weakening you about very little expect ppd while those things are working against the hurricane, we have very good what we call outflow. in the upper levels here, the air is flowing out of this storm. it is very light in that area. and then the other thing, the water temperatures are crazy warm. we are talking upper 80s. so those are all things that can intensify a hurricane. overall we think we will balance ons out and stay status quo when i comes to intensity with this storm. all right. let's go ahead and show thank you track and talk about that, what we can expect in the next 24 to 48 hours. we have hurricane watches which are in effect from surf city and extending up to the island. hurricane conditions are possible within 48 hours or less. likely going to be upgraded to warnings, we think. later on tonight. here's that track. this will show you this is 2:00 a.m. friday. you can see just off the cape, as category 3 storm.
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look, here is the cone of uncertainty. that includes all of the way up towards atlantic city. new york, into boston. we think lit get closest here to nantucket. as the strong hurricane, as we head into friday and saturday morning. any way you slice this, t.j., it will be impacting the coast in particular. millions of people trying to head to the beach this weekend. and, unfortunately, it is going to be a weekend for the cool as opposed to the ocean. look at that nice picture. >> it is. it is mao. >> don't be fooled. >> it is now. we appreciate you. you will be here keeping an eye on things. rob marciano doing the same as well. he is out at virginia beach. new round of middle east peace talks is coming up today. getting under way this morning. it will do so under the cloud of new violence. palestinian officials are stemming drive-by attack near hebron. four israelis were killed, including a pregnant woman. the palestinian security officials say suspects are
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already in custody. here's now a look at the key players in the mideast peace talks which gets under way next hour. israeli prime minister, binyamin netanyahu, joined by his counterpart, mahmoud abbas. hamas is one refusing to take part in any meetings. president barack obama. former senator george mitchell. secretary of state hillary clinton taking part. other major players, king abdullah ii and egyptian egyptian, hosni mubarak. ask tony blair who serves as keon invoice in the peace process. also coming your way, powder keg of the middle east. going to show you the challenges of the peace process by reminding you how volatile that region is.
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>> reporter: it would appear in this conflict neither side can claim victory in the classic sense of military versus military, state versus state. the overarching question in the middle east, can there ever be peace. >> that's john roberts there. he will share his experiences and insights in covering war in the region. that's coming your way right after the break. [ male announcer ] they say breakfast
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in recent years one of the most bloody conflicts in the region is the 2006 fighting along advertise real/lebanon border. the war lasted just over a month. the toll was large. some 1300 people were killed. more than a million people were
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chased from their homes. our john roberts was embedded with israeli troops as part of cnn's award winning coverage. >> reporter: we are pulling back to israel now after would days in the field. after spending 48 hours with this unit we get a greater appreciation for just how difficult this battle really is. it would appear that in this conflict, neither side will be able to claim victory in the classic sense of military versus military, state versus state. the overarching question in the middle east, can there ever be a peace? >> john, this conflict shows just what a powder keg the region is. we all tend to wonder if these negotiations will ever make a difference like the ones happening this week. >> yes. certainly the idea that the palestinian president is going to sit down one-on-one and potentially repeat lid with the israeli prime minister, could be seen as a very positive sign. but even if they could work something out, there's the question of what do you do about
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hamas and the gaza strip? what do you do about syria? what do you do about hezbollah in lebanon? there's so many players in the middle east that it is difficult to see that any one road will bear fruit. you have to get everybody -- everybody on the same page at the same time. >> you witnessed talks before from your perch at the white house. and you also were the first western reporter to embed with israeli troops during that war. let's take a look a had a and i want to follow up with a question. >> walking for a couple of miles now. we are going to stop to drink a little bit of water. it has been hard. up one hin hill, down another. very, very dusty. it is an amazingly clear night here in south lebanon. moon was up little while ago. now the moon is down. it is darker than it was before. it is a sky full of stars. somewhat at odds with the action on the ground. >> one thing i noticed, john, up
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weren't in tanks. there were no apcs. everything was on foot. >> when they tell you that you are embedding with the israeli infantry, they mean infantry. we walked about ten miles into lebanon on that hot night. up and down tank roads carve flood the lebanese hillside. very, very soft dirt. one of the most difficult things that i have ever done just physically carrying all of that gear and then you are under the constant threat of attack as well. it was amazing to be able to see that operation from the inside and to be one of the first people to ever embed with israeli military. that was a really inning opportunity for a journalist to be able to see it from that close up and from that side. >> i remember during this war, it is when you first came to cnn and you were doing all of these live shots and one of the most memorable moments was when you talked about the rockets coming at you. i remember one moment when you
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had to dash for shelter. let's take a look at this. i want to ask you about this. >> we were just leaving when the area siren went off again. we thought it would be best to take cover. in this area, so many rockets have come in that it is just not worth taking a chance. they can land literally anywhere. >> so we see you during the war like this. these intense moments and once again, we ask the question, will talks work? will negotiations actually make an impact this time? will you be covering another war in the next year? >> you know, it is impossible to know because even if the talks between the palestinian p and the israeli prime minister bear fruit, what do you do about hezbollah north of lebanon? he bragged last year he has some 30,000 rockets that can be used against israel in a war. israel recently upped that number to say no, it is probably more like 40,000.
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and kuwaiti newspaper recently ran an article suggesting the israeli defense forces were planning an attack in southern lebanon to hit some of those depots where hezbollah has stored some of those missiles and other weapons. so these lingering tensions and all of the arnments, all of the weapons in the area, makes you wonder if there ever will be peace in the middle east because so many players have so much motivated self interest in keeping tensions high there that they may not want to put those weapons down. >> we will be following the outcome of the talks. that's for sure. john roberts, thanks so much. >> you bet. we will turn back to the war in iraq now. it has been going on so long now, for many iraqi children it is all they have known in their lives. just ahead, they tell their stories of growing up amid the bloodshed and heartbreak. [ male announcer ] the financial headlines can be unsettling. but what if there were a different story? of one financial company that grew stronger through the crisis.
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nasrallah. test as always, a busy day here in the cnn newsroom. checking in with our team of reporters out there. we begin with our meteorologist
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rob marciano. >> hurricane watches posted for north carolina. the hurricane 3 storm takes aim at the east coast. i'm suzanne malveaux at the white house. president obama is trying to jump start the middle east peace talks. he will have one on one meetings with the leader of israel, the palestinian authority, jordan as well as israel. whether or not he can succeed where so many others have failed, president obama will give it a shot. >> rob, suzanne, we appreciate you both. see you shortly. also ahead, veterans returning home from iraq could face a hostile job market. tony harris has tips on where they can go for help finding a job. the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2010 is 250 for $349 a month for 36 months
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well, it is an historic milestone, but, still by no means does it mean an end to the violence in iraq. it's the end of the combat mission but with are still bringing you reports of deaths
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of u.s. service members and iraqi civilians. we are reflecting on the last seven years and what withdrawing troops means to both u.s. and iraq. with the end of the u.s. combat mission comes after seven years of heart break and bloodshed. for many of iraq's children that's all they have ever known. arwa damons that their story in their own words. >> reporter: this is one of the more popular ice cream parlors, and we are here to speak with children. a child psychologist recently told us that he believed the majority of iraq's children are suffering from some sort of trauma as a result of this war. these children are 11-year-old cousins. they are outgoing and love to talk. he wants to be a doctor. she doesn't know, but they have nightmares of war. it's the first memory they have.
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[ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: now that the boys are on summer vacation, they say they miss school. at least it provided them with an alternate reality. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: their familiarity with violence is troubling. [ speaking in a foreign language ]
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[ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: kids' conversation mimics those of adults, their childhood clouded with talk of assassinations, bombings and violence. this 10-year-old's first memory is also of war. there are few centers to go to for psychiatric help. this girl says she's still scared even as we sit here but
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at least the nightmares stopped. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> reporter: dreams here are rarely sweet, and sleep offers little escape. arwa damon, cnn, baghdad. we are back at the top of the hour here now. hello to you all again. i'm t.j. holmes sitting in today for kyra phillips. we are talking about hurricane earl, a major storm right now, category 3, 125-mile-per-hour winds right now. there are some mandatory -- some mandatory -- evacuations going on. so far they are for tourists. other people who live in the area not being told they have to get out. some deciding to hunker down.
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the danger spreads up to virginia. rip currents and waves posing a danger for a lot of people, swimmers, on the east coast. already we have seen one rescue. lifeguards in ocean city, maryland, had to rescue a guy getting pulled farther and farther into the atlantic. rip currents have shut down some beaches northeast of boston. people also getting their boats ready for earl, trying to get out of the way. also in the virginia coast, the navy getting its destroyer ready to move to calmer waters, trying to get out of earl's way. cnn is, of course, your hurricane headquarters. jacqui jeras is watching it from here. rob marciano is watching earl from the coast in virginia beach for us. rob, hello to you once again. does it seem like people are getting ready? are they taking this seriously enough that your estimation so far? >> reporter: not at all, not
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right now, t.j. that's a little bit scary. there's a lot of people here that wouldn't normally be here. last week of summer, vacationers, people who reason very hurricane savvy, and the people who live here haven't endured a storm since hurricane isabelle. a little bit of hurricane amnesia, and if that storms makes a left jog, like it's doing, this area could be in some trouble. the other issues, you mentioned it, rip currents. we had hundreds of rescues over the past weekend from deadly rip currents because of hurricane danielle, which was smaller and way out there. now we have earl, billinger, stronger and closer, and all of these people not only on this beach in virginia, up and down the eastern seaboard are going to be in the water the next several days regardless of how close hurricane earl comes, and that's going to have lifeguards with their hands full.
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evacuations along north carolina. so far here in virginia, no evacuations needed, and the evacuation routes are a lot more accessible. the red cross has about 80 shelters open up and down the east coast from the carolinas on up. we are preparing for the worst but hoping for the best, the turn to sea. hasn't happened yet. more from jacqui jeras about where exactly the storm is. jacqui, we are always talking about this cone of uncertainty. you never really know. not making a turn for the better just yet. >> the computer models have been trending westward and left of the storm but it appears it may stay offshore. it is about 750 miles away from the coast of the carolinas at this time. take a look at the statistics. category 3 storm, a major
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hurricane. even though the winds were stronger earlier, we want you to treat this as a major storm no matter what because powerful hurricanes can't stay that strong for that long, so it is very common to see fluctuations, going back and forth. we had dry air trying to move in, but take a look, that eye is becoming much better defined and getting a much more symmetrical storm. it is possible the pressure will lower and see additional strengthening. hurricane conditions are possible in 48 hours or left, and this may be upgraded to a warning. it's stretching down toward surf city. we think those waves are going to kick up even throughout the day today. the closest approach, that's going to be late on thursday night into friday morning and into new england friday night into saturday, and those winds are going to stay strong, and the waves strong through the
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weekend. this is a live picture from kill delve hills, become become. you can see the waves are fine. there are surfers in the water, something i would not recommend, t.j. holmes. >> when people say the closest it may get, and people hear that, and they may hear it's not going to make landfall but it's close enough that you are going to get hit with rain and wind that is still dangerous? >> absolutely. this is a big storm. don't focus on the skinny part of the line because that's the best estimate. when a storm is 200 miles out from the center, 500 miles potentially. you will see the big waves here. either way you slice it, this will be an impact storm on the u.s. coastline the next couple of days. >> great point to emphasize. we appreciate you so much. we turn your attention to what we have been watching in iraq. today the u.s. marking a change
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of command officially, and a change of mission. the vice president, joe biden and defense secretary robert gates both attending today's transfer ceremony in baghdad, u.s. forces go from a combat role to a training role. army general lloyd austin becoming the new commander of u.s. forces in iraq, replacing general order yearn know. u.s. troops may be in a support role in iraq now, but the new mission means possibly even more work for some of them. our chris lawrence has been embedded with the troops all week, joining us live from baghdad. chris, hello to you. it seems counterintuitive. the mission has changed, sounds like it should be less work but some of them will be working harder. >> reporter: that's right
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because there's less of them now, t.j. you know, it depends on your job. they are in a much different role. instead of running out wire and kicking down doors and leading missions, they are going to be in a support role, used for air support, providing assistance to iraqis. the role of leader and followers has now been totally flip-flopped. now it's official. american troops who once led missions now assist iraqi forces. what does september 1st mean to you? >> to me, it means we have done well and we have worked ourselves out of a job, which is what we came here to do in the first place. >> it means that i'm not going to have to come back. >> reporter: september 1st means more work for some american flight crews. especially those flying blackhawks. >> we're one of the only support aircraft here since we had chinooks that were here. they just recently left. so it's picked up quite a bit
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for us. >> reporter: the first full day of new dawn is poignant for soldiers who were here for years of operation iraqi freedom. >> i have been here four tours, and the change i've seen is remarkable. >> reporter: he was part of the invasion of iraq in 1003, and then deployed twice during the most brutal fighting. >> it was really really crazy for a couple of years there but now i look back on that, and it's a breath taking difference. >> it is a significant thing for a soldier to see iraqis that he trained two years ago and they didn't have the training and went aggressive and now to see them doing operations on their own, he's getting pay back for the time he spent here. >> reporter: more than 4,400 troops died, and another 34,000 were wounded. when you look back at your experience, '05, '069, was it
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worth it? >> absolutely. a lot of individuals made sacrifice, soldiers' faces and people i worked with, and if their sacrifice can be worth where we're going, i think we're doing the right thing. >> reporter: yeah, i met a lot of soldiers, young soldiers on their fourth deployment here to iraq. think about this, over the past seven years, they have spent the majority of their lives here. more time here in iraq than time at home. you know, when you think about that for a second, the impact that it's had on their lives, a lot of these young men and women joined when they were 19 and 20 and they have grown up with nothing but these deployments to iraq. a lot of them have told me they are actually hopeful about what happens here and they're invested in it, and even going back home, knowing they will probably never be deployed here again, they are going to follow what happens here in iraq, because some of them, especially those who have been here for
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years and seen so much bloodshed and lost friends and fellow soldiers and marines, they want to know it meant something. they say, we're hopeful now but if iraq falls apart and slides back into chaos, a couple of them told me that's going to be hard for them to take. >> chris, we appreciate that perspective, a very personal perspective, and they all have a personal stake in it at this point over so many years. chris, we appreciate you as always. coming up later in d.c., the white house shifting focus to middle east peace talks. it will include leaders from the region and with direct talks with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to meet with abbas, and also jordan's king and the egyptian president will also be participating. a second wave of misery in pakistan. now that the floodwaters are receding, the threat of
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we turn to pakistan now, where the threat of water borne disease is now a major problem after the epic flooding they've seen there. the flooding drowned whole villages. this has all been happening in the past few weeks. more than scene 00 people have died and another 17 million have been affected. dr. sanjay gupta is there. >> reporter: faisal ali is now getting something millions cannot. medical care. it's amazing because up until a couple of days ago, his life looked like this. then he got sick. very sick. a parents' love for their son took over. knowing he would die, they took
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a gamble. left everything they had behind and just started moving, somewhere, anywhere. you have probably never seen a line like this before, but this is a line for people waiting to get into the hospital. there is garbage all around the place. they are waiting for help. they have infectious diseases associated with drinking contaminated water. this is a center specifically for children. let's go take a look. faisal finally made it inside. your town is completely covered in water. he's been sick for some time. he was saying he was sick before the flood and just became much worse during the flooding. 3 years old, weighs just 10 pounds. he's so small. for comparison, i have a 3-year-old daughter who weighs closer to 30 pounds. he is so fragile. young children have weaker
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implun systems and become more easily dehydrated, and like millions of people around the country, he didn't have a choice when he got their city, killer water. imagine drinking that. i have affect covered so many natural disasters, and there is always a fear of a second wave of disease, but access to clean water helped control that risk after the haiti quake. in pakistan, though, the second wave, it's already here. it's so hard to see these little kids so sick on these dusty, dirty tables, i.v.s hanging. this baby so small, you see her little foot hanging out. these children are sick, and this is a diarrhea treatment center to take care of them. some came from a flood and some are citizens of pakistan dealing with these issues on a pretty regular basis. killer water. just consider the impact.
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already 1 million people with crippling diarrhea and respiratory infections. the world health organization projecting hundreds of thousands of patients with cholera, dysentery and typhoid. pakistan could be held hostage by killer water. this affecting their next generation like this little 3-year-old. you can check little things to see how dehydrated they are. push on the tips of their fingers and blood doesn't come back. he has a very weak pulse as well. his poor little mouth is so dry but he's in the right place. he's one of the lucky ones. >> all right, and our dr. sanjay gupta is on the line with us, on the phone with us in pakistan. sanjay, let me start with the
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picture we saw at the end of the piece. what happened to him? >> reporter: the good news is that treatment is working. he's going to do well, getting i.v. fluids, getting supportive care, and sometimes getting food so that their immune system can be boosted to help fight the infections, and in some cases they need antibiotics. a lot of people don't have access to it. faisal will probably do fine. he's in the hospital, a couple days and be able to leave. that's the key is getting some of that very simple, basic care to millions of other people. >> sanjay, what's happening to the folks? we saw the line of people in your piece there lined up for the hospital. we know it's hard to get around and impossible in some area because of the floodwaters. what if they can't make the long distance to the hospital? what is happening to them? is any aid going out to them? >> reporter: that's a good question. so much of the disease you're
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seeing there is due to -- >> we did lose our sanjay gupta. >> water tablets. i'm not sure if you can hear me. >> we did get you back. you went out for a second. start that answer over again for me. >> reporter: i think there's two things to your question, t.j. one is trying to get the water that's causing so many of the problems cleaner, and getting bottled water is too cumbersome, water purification tablets and special straws that can purify water. that's key. but some of the basic things i'm talking about, getting i.v. hydration and supportive care out in the camps. that's very necessary as well. so many people can't make the trip to the hops, so taking the medical care to them is going to be important. >> our dr. sanjay gupta. we appreciate you as always and
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20 past the hour now. let's take a look at some of the stories that are making
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headlines, including hurricane earl, now a category 3 storm, packing 125-mile-per-hour winds. already some evacuations of tourists have been ordered along the north carolina coast. it could impact the east coast in a major way even if it doesn't make landfall. we are keeping a close eye on it here. also, the president taking on middle east peace today. leaders of the middle east peace talks are in washington. the president going to meet with benjamin netanyahu and mahmoud abbas. all, the wikileaks founder is now facing rape charges once again. julian assange, a case against him for rape and molestation in sweden opened last month. the rape charge was dropped but now the rape charge has now been opened up once again. prosecutors saying the crime has been committed. they have evidence that the crime has been committed, but, meanwhile, julian assange's
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attorney says they are very surprised at that decision. veterans of the iraq and afghanistan war face another battle when they get home -- finding a job. we're taking a look at the unemployment rate among veterans.
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we're funding a post- 9/11 g.i. bill that helps our veterans and their families pursue the dream of a college education. just as the g.i. bill helped those who fought world war ii, including my grandfather, become the backbone of the middle class, so must today's men and women have the chance to apply
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their gifts to expand the american economy because part of ending a war responsibly is standing by those who fought it. >> veterans face a hostile job market when they come back stateside. tony harris is looking at the those numbers. we hear the overall unemployment number. >> here's the deal. the president announces the end of combat operations in iraq last night from the oval office. we have been uplifted, our spirits raised by the scenes of military veterans coming back, the homecomings. >> there it is. >> fourth stryker brigade in the seattle area, families reunited. so what you have, t.j., are troops, men and women, who are now trying to transition. they finish up enlistments and trying to transition now to civilian life and join the civilian workforce. so how daunting a task is that for them right now?
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you just mentioned the overall unemployment rate of 9.5%. it's been stuck there. it's been as high as 10% and we're stuck here at 9.5%. when you look at the subset of military veterans of iraq and afghanistan war, 11.8% in july. a year ago, it was -- we have the number for you, it was 9.8%. consider the overall unemployment rate a year ago at this time, 9.4%. all right, so the numbers trend higher for these veterans, but those are statistics. let's take a look at richard wilkes, and we're not talking about statistics now. these are families. these are faces of returning veterans trying to transition into civilian life again. he is an army national guard vet. months of sending out resumés. month after month after month. not getting a hit, not getting a ping.
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what did he do? he decided to re-enlist and do another tour in iraq. >> now what is the challenge for them? they are coming back into a tough job market anyway. that's one thing, but are they facing different challenges, trying to readjust to civilian life? >> that is a part of it, but one of the issues i want to explore with this is that we know that a lot of these returning veterans went in as young men and women. some with just a high school diploma. so one of the things i want to explore next hour in the newsroom is whether or not they simply don't have enough education. at 9.5%, anywhere from 14 to 17% real unemployment in the country right now, employers are in a position to pick and choose exactly who they want with the kind of education requirements necessary to do these new jobs in this new economy. we have had heard arne duncan say that a high school education is not enough. so when you hear the president talking about the new g.i. bill
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and funding that up, that is about getting these returning veterans who are making this transition the additional education they need to compete in this new job market. that's where we are right now. >> you stop and think about it, a lot right out of high school. >> right. >> 18, 19 years old. the world is changing. >> absolutely. >> and these young folks come out with special skills in the military. you pick up skills, but there's a different skill set back here. >> and this day be time. they have amazing skills, and they are mission-focused. we know that. they have some very specific skills that you would think would transition well, but you've got to match the skills with the jobs that are available. do you have time for one website that we found? >> please. we always have time for you. >> we found a particular website because, again, you're returning home, you want to make this transition. we found a website. if you are asking a question, how do i get reengaged into the
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civilian job market, here is a is site that may help you. there are a variety of websites and linking here to this site. there's a link here that points them to civilian jobs. another link where and how to get certificate fixes, licenses for various jobs. a couple more, another link, how to prepare resumés, basic skills, right? got to have that. there was another link that really links you to state by state jobs banks. so, again that's career one stop.org. >> you go right into the military, you never put together a professional resumé before. top of the hour. >> my pleasure. >> let's do this one. >> we should. coming up, we've got some good news on the economic front. look at this. the market's happy to put the month of august behind.
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so stop by and get your flu shot today at walgreens. basic.? preferred. okay. at meineke i have options, and 50% off brake pads and shoes. my money. my choice. my meineke. in just about 15 minutes from now, president obama scheduled to meet with benjamin netanyahu in the oval office, kicking off two days of middle east peace brokering with leaders from across the region. suzanne malveaux is here with a preview of those talks. before we get started, i want you and others to listen to something we just got from the chief palestinian negotiator, from an interview he did with
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cnn international. take a listen. >> now is time not for negotiations. it's time for decisions. we know, palestinians and israelis know today, that all issues are doable, including jerusalem, refugees, security, et cetera, and they require decisions. palestinians and israelis know that they don't need to eat the apple from the start and reinvent the wheel. palestinians and israelis know that if not this year, next year, and ten years time it will be a two-step solution on the 1967 lines, palestine next to the state of israel. and the difference in time here is how many lives for israelis palestinians will be saved. >> you know, you were talking about it a little earlier that it was really the president here is biting off a lot. a lot of his predecessors and tried this before, and leading into it, you are hearing the chief negotiator not reinventing
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the wheel. we need decisions, not negotiations, and how many more lives and blood will be shed. how is this? how are we starting? >> reporter: t.j., one of the interesting things about what he said, i've been speaking with a palestinian source that's traveling with mahmoud abbas and the entourage there. you can read it as optimism, don't have to reinvent the wheel. truth be told, west bank is better off when it comes to the economics and security situation than in a long time. but i also take a listen to that and he's dismissing the timetable that president obama has laid out whether he says not a year, maybe two years or beyond. president obama wants this thing to happen in rather short order and one of the things that the palestinians are saying that's very different than the israeli side is that they want all of the issues on the table when it comes to final status talks. what does that mean? they want to talk about borders,
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security, refugees, as well as the state of jerusalem. the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu wants to deal with security first and maybe the other issues at a later date. you are really hearing when you hear the negotiator talk about, hey, let's put it all out there, you're hearing a disagreement in priorities because they feel like they can talk about all of it, and the israelis are not satisfied at all that they are at that point where they're going to have everything on the table now. so this is going to be a process that's going to play itself out step by step. we'll see if there is some sort of coming together, a meeting of the minds on this. one of the major things, tests, as you know, t.j., that's going to come up in about a month or so is whether or not the israelis will continue to expand settlements on the west bank. right now there's a moratorium in place that expires in september. does netanyahu decide to allow that to expire, allow it to expand or say let's go ahead and put a restriction on that as the
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palestinians would like. >> yes, and they have two different publics, their own respective publics and constituencies that they are playing to right now. the obama administration, though, how high have they set expectations? are they trying to monitor expectations and not raise them high or do they have high expectations? >> reporter: well, i think they have realistic expectations at this point. they're just getting started. i think the feeling among obama administration officials is we're starting the process early. the president set the table from the beginning, the first days in its administration to press the reset button when it came to u.s. and relations in the arab world. one year is quite ambitious when you think about it, to have all of these issues on the table for final talks. they feel that that is a push, but there is an advantage here, because, in covering president
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busch, he laid out a road map idea, two-state solution but didn't really earnestly get involved in a major way until the end of his administration, and by then it was too late and they didn't have the power behind theed a stragts to get it moving. i think the obama administration and looking at it as a jump off point. >> suzanne malveaux at the white house. we appreciate you as always, and president obama scheduled to make a statement on the middle east peace process later today, scheduled for 5:20 eastern time. you can see it here on cnn. the peace talks officially getting under way here in a matter of minutes at the oval office. a boy at the center of a custody battle that stretched from texas to france. he's back in the u.s. today is his first full day back, and he wants to go to chuck e. cheese with his little brother. soup? oh, it's a program that raises money for schools. that's great, but this is a can.
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all right. hurricane earl, category 3 on the way but already causing some problems. some evacuations have been ordered of some tourists, and there's danger of rip currents and those heavy tides right now. jacqui jeras keeping a close eye on this thing. everybody saying, maybe it will shift to the west or east. is it shifting at all? >> it's trending westerly. it's going to be close, right? even if we don't get a direct hit, we have the evacuations on ocracoke. that's mandatory and the evacuations on hatteras island for the visitors. if you have beach plans this weekend, if you go later in the weekend, you'll be better off, maybe monday. don't get in the water. there are the red flags in kill
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devil hills. look at the waves going. getting pretty rough. we should have an update shortly from the national hurricane center. right now, category 3 storm, very powerful, major, with 125-mile-per-hour winds. there you see the hurricane watches which are in effect, and which will likely be upgraded to warnings later today. the forecast track brings it near the cape late thursday night into friday morning, and then towards the other cape, cape cod, as we head into saturday. the probabilities of who is going to be feeling the impact of these storms in terms of tropical storm force winds and hurricane force winds -- my machine locked up. i have to bring it to you when i see you again. i was getting the wrap and it wasn't going. >> that's okay. >> i'll tell you more later. don't go away. >> we know you'll get it worked out. she's really passionate about the weather. an 11-year-old boy spending
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his first full day in the u.s. with his mom and little brother in nearly a year. this was the scene last night. he arrived in san antonio. that's his little brother excited to see his big brother again. they haven't seen each other in that year because that is when about a year ago, authorities took john paul off a school bus and handed him over to his dad. you can see some of the video here. jean-paul was making it clear he did not want to go with his dad. authorities thought jean-paul's dad had a lechts court order awarding him custody but it turns out dad might have forged the documents and tricked the judge. he whisked the boy off to france, and the international custody battle then began. a french court granted custody to the mom last week and that brings us back to san antonio and last night's homecoming. >> i missed her a lot. and when i saw my brother, too,
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it was awesome to see my family again. >> i'm thrilled, and this is a new chapter in my life. this is the best thing that has happened to me in all of these ten months. >> and jean-paul said one of the first orders of business for him now that he's back home and to head to chuck e. cheese with his brother. the father is facing texas charges of kidnapping, aggravated perjury and interfering with child custody. >> children across the country are rewriting their academic school calendar, splitting up the summer vacation. we're weighing the pros and cons now of year-round schools. we want to hear from you about that. sound off at cnn.com/t.j. year-round schools versus traditional schools. chime in. coverage in america
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fix our schools. those three words will drive much of what you see on cnn this week because as america's children return to school, cnn has a mission. we sent reporting teams across the country to document the education crisis around america, and most importantly, to shine a light on success stories that can empower us to offer our children so much more than they're getting now. today, we want to talk about the calendar debate. most students heading back to school now. but millions of kids have been sitting in class all summer as part of their year-round school cal lynn der.
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of the 99,000 secondary schools in this country, 3,000 are year round. they go about 180 days out of year but they have smaller, more frequent breaks throughout the year. trying to weigh the pros and cons here. joining me now from san diego, california, is godwin heega, a school that uses the year-round schedule, and also tina bruno, from the coalition of a traditional school. if you go to school for 180 days in the year-round calendar, and you go for 180 days in the traditional calendar, what's the difference? what's the upside if you are spending the same amount of time in the classroom? >> i think the major situation that occurs is when the students return from 11 to 12 weeks of
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summer break, teachers and students have to spend a lot of time reviewing, reteaching, and readjusting to school settings. so that, i think, is a major problem with the traditional typical 11 der. >> now, miss bruno, do you agree with that? >> if you get out of school in may or june, and you are not back until august or september, that's a big gap in which you are not looking at a book. a lot of kids are not studying anymore. doesn't that make a bit of sense to keep the kids fresh all year? >> actually, when you look at the research, it shows in a 12-month calendar situation, kids actually learn the same amount of material because the bottom line is simple. they're all in school for the same number of days. regardless of how you break it up, they come back from two or three weeks off of a little break having to review. what the research shows is when you put all of that review time together, it's the same whether
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you are on a traditionalal calendar or a year-round calendar. the year-round limits the time they can participate in other activities, extracurricular activity in the middle of winter and october. in the summer months, there are a lot of them, so i think we have to be cautious that if we're not giving the children more time in the classroom that we're making sure that they can participate in outside learning experiences so that they can understand the benefits of what their teachers are presenting every day. >> mr. higa, are we seeing any research that says, yes, in fact, having kids in school year round on that different calendar, same amount of time in class, that they perform any better? >> well, i have been a principal for 11 years, and 7 years at a year-round school and had years at a traditional school and i
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can see the difference. i think what the difference is is that the type of students that you're dealing with. i am at a socially disadvantaged school, economically disadvantaged school, and to have a student with special needs, with second-language issues, it's very difficult for students to be away for so long and i've experienced that with teachers and students, that coming back with a long break like this would just -- they're falling behind. i can see that. >> miss bruno, is it fair to say, i guess -- you talk about the benefits of kids being out of the school in the summer and the activities. what about the more disadvantaged kids and parents who are struggling who could benefit from having their kid in school year round, activity year round. maybe they can't afford the other programs and having them enrolled in this and that? could that be beneficial for
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some to be in a year-round school? >> i think for every segment of the population we need to make sure we have specialized instruction. but when you look at dividing up how 1 yeltsin 80 days are given to our kids, their parents are responsible for finding activities during the 12 d-mont cycle. it is difficult for those parents, the economically challenged parents to find places for their children to go to receive these quality programs if it's not during the summer months. our society is not built that way. i think one thing that's being looked at, and one thing that parent supporters of our movement have even talked to legislators about is that one size doesn't fit all. so if you have a specific segment of the population that needs more days of instruction, if they're not up to par by the end of the year, then we need to
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be putting things in place to get them more days in the classroom, more specialized instruction to meet their needs. >> and on that point you made about how much time spent in the classroom. let's look at what other countries do. the u.s. 180 days. look at japan, kids spend 243 days in the classroom. in germany, 210 day, and in south korea, 220 days. can you agree whether we do year-round or not, can we all agree that you know what, maybe our kids should spend more time in the classroom? mr. higa, do you agree with that? >> yes, i do. being at a year-round school as an administrator, i implemented many interventions and extra time for students, extended learning. i have academic saturday school
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20 times a year, four hours. 120 students come in every saturday and i also have spring academy and winter academy. this helps them make up for those days. it equates to about 200 days at my school, cherokee point, and it really is benefiting the students, and i truly believe that an extended day would help. >> miss bruno, you agree with that as well? maybe his kids there with the year-round format are getting about 20 extra days a year. i suppose you would agree, with kids being in class longer, maybe we need to find a way to do that. >> i don't necessarily agree that giving more of the same to everybody is our best bet. it's very, very expensive. one school district in ohio, cleveland, estimated $1.5 million for every day they added. untititi make sure that our teachers have all of the
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resources they need in the classroom and addressed our time on task issues, addressed discipline issues, we've addressed parental involvement issues and make sure there are other small group tutoring and other programs like this wonderful principal has in place at his school in place at every school, adding more of the same isn't going to cut it. it's like saying, they do it, this kid fell down and needs a band-aid. let's give one to every kid in the class. that doesn't make sense. education needs to be personalized for the child but until this nation embraces education like other nations do that you're comparing us to, and we have more time on task, and have the parental involvement and support, just adding more of the same is not going to give us an increased academic result. >> i appreciate you both. thank you for letting us hear your views. maybe we should get some kids on. i wonder how this would have gone with them, asking them about a longer school year.
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you heard a debate about year-round schools. derek dodge keeping an eye on the responses. well, people in favor? >> um, we have some conflicting
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viewpoints. let kids be kids obviously is a good one. this one is from a girl who actually had a school like this, and she said she got less bored doing the model with no summer break. this american says that idea is an old idea, goes back to the times when kids had to go back to the farm. conflicting ideas out there from our online community. >> wonder how many kids are writing in? >> i think there's a few. >> derek dodge, appreciate you as always, and 11:00 a.m. eastern time, time for tony harris after the break. there's no way to hide it. sir, have you been drinking tonight? if you ride drunk, you will get caught... and you will get arrested.
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